Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Changes Coming To Your Merrill + Visa Credit Card: Visa Signature Benefits


Merrill + Visa cardholders will soon be receiving Visa Signature benefits with their cards, according to a person I spoke with at FIA Card Services, the Bank of America subsidiary that handles Merrill Lynch cards. Merrill is currently in the process of implementing the change. At a time when card companies are moving to cut costs, and kill credit-card perks, it's nice to see Merrill adding -- rather than slashing -- benefits.

Cardholders can expect to receive plenty of literature regarding the new benefits before January 1, 2009. Importantly, even though cardmembers will receive Visa Signature benefits, the card will continue to look the same (you won't receive new plastic) and the card number will remain the same. (Hat tip to AJ over at the cardratings.com forum for first mentioning possible changes.)

Additionally, in January cardmembers will receive credit-card statements with the new Visa Signature logo. In a lot of ways these new benefits will make the Merrill + card feel like a hybrid card. While it will still be a Platinum Plus rewards card (that's what the Merrill card is), we'll be receiving Visa Signature benefits in addition to the Merrill benefits that we've always enjoyed.

Indeed, with the new benefits, card members will no longer have a preset spending limit. If your current credit limit is $50,000, you'll be able to charge in excess of that amount without incurring over-the-limit fees (assuming, of course, Merrill approves the charge).

I'm told that our assigned credit limits will continue to get reported to the credit bureaus, thereby keeping our limits in play for utilization purposes. We'll see. My Nordstrom Visa Signature card, for example, does not report the limit to the credit bureaus. Instead, only my high balance is reported. In fact, most Visa Signature cards do suppress the limits when they're reported to the credit bureaus. Still, because Merrill is not actually issuing new Visa Signature cards, maybe consumers -- who want the limit to report -- will be pleasantly surprised. I'm taking a wait-and-see approach.

Finally, because Merrill is not issuing a new Visa Signature card (and has no plans to), applicants will continue to be greeted by the Merrill + application on Merrill Lynch's Web site. The only difference for them, as opposed to existing cardholders, is that the application (when Merrill changes the language) will tout the Visa Signature benefits that now come with the card.

71 comments:

RUAFRAIDOFME said...

My Goal is to someday have this card! I would like it in the next 18 months. What are the requirements?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

RUA, I wrote about this card when I detailed my own card portfolio. You can read about the card there.

Still, to answer your question: the card is underwritten by Bank of America. You can expect BOA to pull your Experian credit report. I have several friends who applied for the card this year. One of them had a score of around 700. She didn't have a lot of inquiries. And her card history was about 5 years. No bad marks on her report. She was approved for a $10,000 limit.

I can't tell you exactly what you need to get approved, but that's a data point that should help a bit.

I got the card a few years ago. At the time my Experian FICO score was around 740. I may have had about 5 inquiries on my report. No bad marks. Utilization was very low (less than 10%). I was given a nice credit limit.

I have yet another friend who applied last year and got a $20K approval. I suspect his credit score was between 700-720. Fairly low utilization. No bad marks.

Hope this helps, pal.

Thanks for visiting my blog. I've never seen your name here before.

Welcome!

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Here is that write up I did on my own portfolio of cards.

http://www.creditmattersblog.com/2008/08/my-portfolio-breakdown.html

The Lion said...

I wonder if it will be at all affected should Bank of America stock holders not approve the purchase or Merrill?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

The change, Lion? No. It won't be impacted. This new benefit is a Visa/BOA deal.

Also, I don't think there is any worry about BOA/Merrill getting done. Or is there?

The Lion said...

There is talk among Merrill FA's that BofA wont approve and...well..Merrill might have trouble continuing without BofA.

Most of the speculation is because Merrill stock keeps falling down.

I just caught that the card is issued by FIA so I doubt it would be affected other than the branding should Merrill collapse.

Bob Wang said...

Sounds like a nice card.
Maybe I should apply for one :-)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Bob, what was your credit limit when you used to have this card?

Bob Wang said...

$50,000

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Have you ever tried to reopen it (not reapplying)? With the new benefits, this card has become more valuable.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Lion, thanks for the comment on Merrill FAs. I have not been paying attention.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

By the way, the deal price continues to slide because BOA continues to slide. This is an all-stock deal. The exchange rate is fixed so any time BOA falls, so does Merrill.

Bob Wang said...

I tried, but having moved 7 figures out of Merrill didn't help my case any :-)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

That's what happens when you take $1 million out of your Merrill brokerage account, pal.

Hope you've learned a valuable lesson there!!

The Lion said...

Shame, shame, BW!

TheVibeRAIDER said...

CreditMatters:

No wonder you're "Bad Influence."

First Penfed.

Then Nordstrom. Now Merrill Lynch.

I only got Penfed, but you're making me look at the other cards as well.

Are you trying to get my score down?

LOL!

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Have to admit, with this move Merrill vaults right near the top in terms of card performance. It already had some nice benefits. Now you're getting the Visa Signature card benefits on top of them.

I'm liking it.

You ought to consider a Merrill card, V.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

You ARE trying to get my score down, Bad Influence!

GRRRR!!!

I can't believe I fell for that good ol' Penfed Trap, because I'm convinced that it made me miss a hat trick on my PFICO.

I have to admit it has become my everyday card, but still...

;-)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

I use the penfed card for everything, V. But you'll like the Merrill card. Check out Merrill's site. card.ml.com.

Check out the benefits on the ML + card. Also, the Merrill card is my highest-limit card (BY FAR). Very generous.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

Bad Influence!!!

TheVibeRAIDER said...

MADE ME LOOK!

NOW RESEARCHING!

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Virgil, just pull the trigger. It's a no brainer. Excellent customer service. Excellent benefits. The price is right: no annual fee. With your scores -- and limits -- you're in like Flynn.

Let me know what limit you get. Also, even if you don't get an instant approval, it's been my experience that a decision will get made within an hour or so of your application.

By the way, Merrill is really good about giving CLIs at activation. Every friend has received one. So have I.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

You crack me up, Bad Influence!

LOL!

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Just trying to help a friend out, V. I know a sure thing when I see it. You're a sure thing.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

I need to test something out.

Let's ask the congregation:

Should I or Shouldn't I not?

The following people need not vote: Marcus, Bad Influence, CreditMattersBlog, and his ilk (relatives, siblings, pets...etc.)

TheVibeRAIDER said...

Oops, I noticed the double negative.

Revised:

Should I or Should I not?

The following people need not vote: Marcus, Bad Influence, CreditMattersBlog, and his ilk (relatives, siblings, pets...etc.)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Trev will be over here in a moment, V.

Virgil said...

Go for it, TheVibeRAIDER!!!!

TrevorHere said...

TVR, Apply for the Bull. It's one of my top cards...

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

V, I can recruit the whole group if you'd like. There are many Bull fans among us.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

Why is Kool Aid in the news lately?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Just apply already.

Far Left Texas said...

Apply Trevor, apply.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

It's not Trevor. Trevor already has the card. It's Virgil.

azntg said...

This article reminds me, I gotta put down a charge to my $1k CL Merrill+ just to claim dibs on the new features LOL.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Jim, I still can't believe that your limit is $1,000! It's amazing.

When was the last time you tried for a love-button CLI?

Far Left Texas said...

Virgil - don't you want to be like Trevor?

Apply Virgil, apply.

If you don't listen to me, here's what GEORGE would say:

APPLY VIRGIL, APPLY

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Virgil, the masses have spoken. Let us know what happens.

TrevorHere said...

Far Left Texas - one Bull is enough for me :P

TVR needs the card...

Josh said...

Has anyone seen if there is an ability of being able to switch cards from a Bofa card to Merill+?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Josh, can't do it. I tried to do it back in the day. Merrill, even though it is underwritten by BOA, is in a different program. As a result, there is no movement between Merrill and BOA -- as far as card conversions go.

THAT SAID, you can move credit limits from your BOA cards to your Merrill card. How you like that? Interesting, eh?

So, no card conversions between the two (because of the different program requirements), but you can move limits between BOA and Merrill accounts.

Josh said...

You think 6 months of history would be too little history to get the card? I really want the card but don't want to jump the gone. I really like my Chase card, great rewards, great CS, constant CL increases but ML+ really catches my eye. My Bofa Secured card is obviously not desirable at all - No rewards and very high interest rate. Even though I never revolve balances, I would never dream of doing it on the Bofa, hence the drive to switch.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Josh, your file seems a bit young. But I can't answer the question definitively. You might want to call and talk with an analyst. Discuss the situation. Get a feel for what they're looking for. It will be an Experian pull.

Call tomorrow during business hours. Just see what they say.

Anonymous said...

I applied for the Merrill+ but since my EX report is frozen, they couldn't pull it and couldn't approve me.

Any chance of getting them to pull a different CR?

I had the same situation with a BofA card and I did ask them to pull a different CR, but they refused.

The Lion said...

Anon, since it is a BofA backed card (FIA) and BofA wouldn't work with you before, I am not sure they would this time. But, it sure can't hurt to ask!

TheVibeRAIDER said...

"I'm told that our assigned credit limits will continue to get reported to the credit bureaus, thereby keeping our limits in play for utilization purposes. We'll see. My Nordstrom Visa Signature card, for example, does not report the limit to the credit bureaus. Instead, only my high balance is reported. In fact, most Visa Signature cards do suppress the limits when they're reported to the credit bureaus."

This is what's keeping me. I want my credit limits reported, but it seems uncertain?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Anon, the Merrill card is underwritten by BOA. You're gonna have to lift that freeze. BOA pulls EX. I don't see them making exceptions.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

V, BOA insists that the limits will be reported. However, I am skeptical by nature. I'll believe it when I see it.

That said, because we are not actually being assigned Visa Signature cards, there is good reason to think that BOA is correct.

But until I see it myself, we'll see.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

BTW, I dig the black-colored card.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

It's a nice looking card. The bull is in light gray and it's right in the middle of the card. On the upper left-hand side the bull is placed in front of several colored squares.

Nice card.

TheVibeRAIDER said...

Of course, I can see that.

Thank you, Bad Influence!

;-)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

You are welcome.

RUAFRAIDOFME said...

thanks creditmatters for the info. I have been reading your blog for a couple months now. I have been a member of CB since 04 tho only recently I have really started to take the time to do this seriously. Its amazing how much having a child makes you grow up even at only 26.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

RUA, well, glad to hear that you've been lurking around here for a couple of months.

Having a kid will do that to you, eh? They make you grow up quickly. All of a sudden you find that you can't act like a kid anymore. Personally, I'm still acting the fool -- and acting like a kid! It's keeps me young.

But congrats on the baby. They're awesome.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the fidelity card with see such changes? Hegemony.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Good question, H. Not sure on that. I'll ask around.

Thanks for posting. Stop making yourself such a stranger.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Hegemony, here is a Fidelity Visa Signature card. Which card, specifically, were you referring to?

http://personal.fidelity.com/products/checking/content/cards.shtml.cvsr?refpr=sitmap67

Anonymous said...

My Fidelity Signature Visa (FIA) does not report my 18k credit limit.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Thanks, Anon. That's pretty standard. Most signature cards do not report the limit. I think what Hegemony is asking is whether his non-Signature Fidelity card will be getting Signature benefits, ala the same situation that's occurring with Merrill Lynch.

What I don't know, though, is what Fidelity card Hegemony is referring to.

Anonymous said...

Does that mean we will be receiving the Merrill Beyond Rewards + 2 benefits?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

It just means that you will be getting the kinds of benefits that come with Signature cards. The Merrill Beyond Rewards are different. Those tiers will still be in place. If you want +2 benefits you'll still need to spend $20,000 a year.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

When Merrill talks about Signature rewards on its site, it's referring to the benefits that come with the Signature Rewards card, which is a totally different card than the Merrill + card.

What I am talking about in this story, is the Signature benefits that come from VISA.

You can read about VISA Signature benefits here: http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/credit/visa_signature.jsp?ep=v_sym_signature

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

By the way, just as clarification: The Merrill Signature Rewards card is a VISA Signature card. It clearly has VISA Signature benefits. But it also has the benefits that are attached to the Merrill Beyond Rewards program.

Our Merrill + will be getting the VISA Signature benefits. It won't be getting the Merrill Beyond Rewards from level 2 of the program.

Hope that clears things up.

ZenWizard said...

I applied for this card today based on our thread over at CB. Based on my income and credit scores, I was surprised to get a "we'll be in touch" notice rather than an approval - but I guess in this environment nothing should surprise me.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Zen, good luck. My approval wasn't instant either. But Merrill approves those cards quickly. Give them a call to see if they have already "decisioned" the card. I would not be surprised if they have already reached a decision.

ZenWizard said...

Approved; just had to call in and talk with an analyst. Thanks!

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Sweet. Figured you would be good to go -- based on your stats.

Congrats!

And don't forget to ask for a CLI at activation. Merrill is very good about that.

ZenWizard said...

I will do that but as you'll see in the thread over at CB (more details there), he told me they'd be glad to go higher if I could send over some docs. I just didn't want to deal with the hassle so I said let's start there. He also mentioned my BofA card and considered that as part of their total exposure... but maybe I'll try at activation too if you think I might be successful. Also, they pulled TU which really surprised me.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Zen, wow, a TU pull. Wish card companies would pull my TU report. 0 Inquiries there.

Regarding the CLI, I think you made the right choice. No need to send in a financial package for a little more available credit.

Also, I used to have BOA accounts and I moved my limits from those accounts over to my Merrill card. I have a nice limit on that Merrill card now. Plus, Merrill is quite generous with the low-interest promo offers.

I currently have a 0.99% offer for a year. If I wanted to take advantage of it, I could play the arbitrage game. But I am not interested -- for now.

Ken said...

Just discovered your blog. Wonderful information. I've had a Merrill+ Visa for several years, but haven't used it much in the past couple. I just got the notice that it's being "upgraded" to Signature. Merrill's fixed rewards haven't seemed that compelling, and when I tried to use some of their airline discounts, etc. they didn't beat fares I could find elsewhere without the Merrill discount. But... Is Signature Visa REALLY worth anything? Other than the ability to charge above your limit (and with a high limit, when is that likely?), I've never seen the benefits of Signature. I'd love to be enlightened. Maybe I'd even go back to using my Merrill+ card more than the once every 6 months I have been. (And thanks to another one of your good posts, I'll be using less active cards more frequently.)

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Ken, all of these benefits really are in the eye of the beholder. But I will say this: more benefits is always good -- especially when the card company is NOT charging you an annual fee.

My suggestion is to mess around on Visa's signature site. They have all of the benefits there. Here is the site: http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/credit/visa_signature.jsp

As for using some of those cards that are inactive, nice! Glad that you caught that story. Just helping my readers wherever possible.

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