Tuesday, January 6, 2009

CreditMattersBlog.com Rewrite: Cut Your APRs and Increase Your Limits (all in one phone call)


This is one story that is in desperate need of a rewrite. And, so, I'm doing that today. You can find my original story here (link). You can compare it with my story from today. Should be instructional.

When I originally wrote this story in July, I was extolling the virtues of calling creditors and asking for both an APR reduction and a credit-limit increase in one call. Today, that advice isn't as strong.

Instead, customers should be reticent about contacting their credit-card issuers and asking for anything. Given this crazy environment, I am more inclined to stay off their radar screens altogether. Still, if I did call, I wouldn't be too worried about asking for APR reductions. But I wouldn't be asking for credit-limit increases. Nope.

Where I used to call and ask for a limit increase every four to six months, I don't call at all now. I'm keeping a low profile and playing defense. What I grabbed during the salad days of 2006 and 2007 is still with me. I'd like to keep those limits intact. I don't want my creditors reevaluating my limits -- and so I am not calling them and bringing attention to myself.

If you are interested in an APR reduction, though, it's easy to do. Call the 1-800 number on the back of your credit card. When you get a customer service representative on the phone, simply ask if your account is eligible for an interest-rate reduction. Here's what you say: I'm a good customer; I have a great payment history; I'd like to have the APR reduced on my credit card. The service rep will be able to adjust your rate right on the spot if your account is eligible. The worst thing that can happen is the rep will say no. You have nothing to lose. Historically, the companies that I have found most receptive to APR changes are Citibank and Bank of America. Chase is the most stingy. Given the changing environment, though, you may find that more card issuers are reluctant to reduce your APR. Oh, well. Give it a whirl nonetheless.

By the way, you shouldn't expect low APRs on some of your rewards cards. Those cards often charge higher interest rates. You may already be at the lowest rate for that card, even though it's relatively high.

In my previous story, I talked about asking for credit-limit increases at this point. For now, though, I tell my friends to hold off on those. When the credit environment gets a little easier, then they can go back to working on increases. That said, if you absolutely need an increase -- and your spending and payment history warrants it -- then by all means call and ask.

If you do decide to ask for a credit-limit increase, remember these tips: some card issuers are unable to give you a limit increase without pulling a new credit report (Chase, in fact, is notorious for pulling a credit report that results in a hard inquiry). I'd avoid those.

Bank of America, meanwhile, allows you to request a credit-line increase online. It will be a soft inquiry unless Bank of America tells you otherwise (its disclosure says that it will not do a hard pull without first notifying you). If you do call about an increase, be sure that the customer-service rep understands that you do NOT want an increase if it's going to result in an inquiry that dings your score. At most, you're looking for nothing more than a soft pull -- which is an inquiry that does not result in an inquiry that hurts your score.

When it comes to credit cards, I'm proactive. If I want a lower APR, I call and ask. If I need a limit increase, I call and ask for one of those as well. My only caveat is that if you don't need a limit increase, you should avoid asking for one. With so many card issuers looking to slash limits (rather than build limits), this isn't the time to get on a card issuer's radar screen.

15 comments:

Marilie said...

Great re-write! Sound advice for those who were unsure about this, given the changes in the climate.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Thanks, M. There are some older stories that need this treatment. And this is a good week for me to do it.

Hoping that these rewrites provide a service to someone.

clutchcargo said...

I'm trying to remember if you ever wrote anything good about Amex. If so, that one needs some polishing.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Clutch, I don't think I wrote anything positive about Amex. I did write about my game plan, though.

http://www.creditmattersblog.com/2008/07/american-express-my-game-plan.html

And I did say that I understood their financial review process.

http://www.creditmattersblog.com/2008/09/american-expresss-financial-review.html

But write something nice? Probably not.

Jill said...

What about applying for new credit in the current credit climate? It's been a year since I applied for my last credit card and was planning on applying for a Bank of America card. Should I wait?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Jill, I have one application in 15 months. I've been laying low. But then I have so much available credit that I find it totally unnecessary to apply for anything.

My scores have climbed to just under 800 on all three scores. I think a lot of it has to do with not applying for new credit.

That said, does it make sense for you to apply for something? Does the BOA card fit into your plan? If it does, you should grab it. If the application doesn't fit into your plan, then you shouldn't.

My credit plan story:

http://www.creditmattersblog.com/2008/07/if-you-dont-have-credit-plan-youre.html

Anonymous said...

I have APRs in the 5-6 range on several rewards cards including Chase, Citibank and BofA. These are lower than some of my vanilla cards.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Anon, that's great. If you don't mind sharing, which cards?

Generally speaking, rewards cards will have higher interest rates. Cool, though, that you have some cards that buck that.

clutchcargo said...

My rewards cards average 4-7% higher than my highest vanilla card.

This brings up an important point. Since I spend the vast majority on these rewards cards, and still want to keep the vanilla's, what would be a servicable amount to charge on them to keep them open?

I don't think a pack of gum every 3 months is enough anymore

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Clutch, you're right. It's not enough these days to make token purchases with a Coke and a pack of gum. What's I've been doing is just rotating my cards for purchases that I would have otherwise made with my rewards cards. Sure, I leave a little on the table, but it's generally less than a $1 in rewards.

I'm also using my cards every other month. Every three months seems dangerous.

JJ said...

Thanks for the rewrite. Based on the earlier info here I was thinking about calling Chase to request a CLI since that card is my lowest limit and hasn't seen an increase in 2 years, but now I think I'll continue to lay low for a while longer.

Spooky said...

Every time I see or hear a comment anywhere (not just here) about Chase Bank, it's always negative. Always. There's a definite "You should be grateful that we allow you to bask in our aura" arrogance to them. And for the record, I don't have a positive regard for them either. They seem to look at customers as something you harvest for fees or maybe Soylent Green. Or both.

Confidential to JJ: No CLI in two years is utterly absurd.

Anyway, I don't think there's anything easier than keeping activity going on all of your relatively idle bank cards. Card "A" gets hit with my monthly Netflix fee, Card "B" gets hit with my monthly credit-monitoring fee, Card "C" gets hit with my monthly alarm-monitoring fee, etc., etc. There's monthly health-club fees, Vonage fees, cell-phone fees, ISP fees, and so forth, and many conventional fees (gas, electric, landline telephone, and cable) that can be easily converted to auto-debits on credit cards. Nothing makes a utility swoon faster and harder than instant payments.

If you have more idle bank credit cards than monthly fees, I might suggest that you have too many idle credit cards.

Anonymous said...

I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION: Several years ago I ordered a new credit card and the issuer wanted me to reduce my limits on my existing cards beforehand. I did so on one card and I was approved. I wonder if having reduced it will ensure I'm never offered an AUTOMATIC limit increase again. Further, I wonder if you need to call to request the system update so you can receive computer-generated increases in the future. The computer related ones don't cause a hard inquiry - but the call-ins do.

Any ideas?

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Anon, I can't answer that question -- because I would only be guessing.

I do know this, though, I would not want to cut limits for a new credit card -- unless the new credit card limit was equal to or greater than the limit I was giving up to get the new card.

Citibank (business card), in 2007, asked me to close some of my other cards if I wanted to get approved for a card. I told them to pound sand. Citibank said that I had too much available credit (which I am sure I did). But I wasn't going to close an account just so that I could have one of Citibank's blessed cards.

CreditMattersBlog.com said...

Spooky, here's one for you. I have had a Chase card for more than 8 years. I have had one CLI on the card during that time. I don't like asking for hard-inquiry CLIs. Chase granted -- during the first six months of me having the card -- one auto CLI (for $800).

My Chase card remains one of my lowest-limit cards today.

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